Dueling preparations

**Malakiel** Thu Oct 18, 2018 10:33 pm

The night was not over yet for Rebecca, she knew that tomorrow she had an unavoidable appointment with the Gangrel Primogen. The duel had to be either tonight or after the Primogen appointment.

Valentine and Brian had discussed this while Star was fighting. Also her transition to Ventrue Clan, not a conversation that the Gangrel was happy to discuss but necesary under the circumstances. He would take this matters to the Primogen for his consideration and approval before continuing or commiting to any agreement with the Ventrue Elder.

The Chess Master finally agreed to make the proper arrangements for the dueling after Rebecca came back from her appointment but asked Brian to let Victoria to conduct the interrogatory, what was of course the most urgent matter at hand. There were another important things in Valentine's mind, like the ambush against Lady von Baden, an splinter in his mind, so to speak. Brian agreed as long as Victoria wouldn't divert from the only objetive of taking information out of the ghouls, no other topic should be addressed while at it.

Valentine, Brian and Rebecca came down to the main entrance building once more where the Gangrel finally accepted the Ventrue's kitchen to calm his urgent thirst. On their way Brian and Valentine informed Rebecca that the duel would be held in two nights in this very precint.

**Star** Thu Oct 18, 2018 10:49 pm

Star remained respectfully silent as she walked along with the two elders. She was enjoying the feeling of her father's vitea in her veins, and the pleasant feeling of closeness as she walked alongside him. Star was in a very pleasant mood, the thoughts of her victory hung in her mind, and the "eye candy" of Lord Valentine only added to her good mood.

On their way Brian and Valentine informed Rebecca that the duel would be held in two nights in this very precint

Star waited to be addressed and then respectfully thanked Lord Valentine for this opportunity, and for the hospitality of letting her train with Count Hayworth. She assured Lord Valentine that she would be ready for the duel and perform her best.

Star waited patiently for her father to get done in the kitchen, then to head to the interrogation room

**Malakiel** Thu Oct 18, 2018 11:18 pm

Brian came back feeling like himself again. He gratefully thanked Valentine for his Hospitality as well and they continued to back stage where the glamour of the Chess Club ended. After going into a secret door leading to spiral stairs into the ground Star found herself in a dark dungeon with blazing oil cauldrons behind thick glass covers in the walls, feeding air from a hole up in each small alcove.

Eventually they got one level below with dark stone walls and matching floors. The luxury and elegance of the upper level was hard to relate to this auster and grim place. The corridors were well guarded by several armored ghouls, heavily weaponized, they form some sort of circular laberinth that in its center had an amphitheater, just one level lower than the rest of the structure with several pillars to which the fifteen ghouls were now tied with chains, at both hand and feet, fully naked. They were also gaged with barbwire, Adam's signature.

Victoria was at the center of the room with Adam and Lawless giving her company. Around the amphitheater in the upper level a bunch of ten ghouls were guarding the place with long range powerful weaponry.

The three vampires in the center bowed before Valentine as the comitive approached. Victoria was the first to talk.
"My Lord Valentine. Welcome, we're ready to proceed with the interrogation.

Sir Hell Song, Miss Garrison. You're also welcome to this dungeon. Please take a sit in the steps as we proceed."

Brian nods and goes silent to sit as told.

**Star** Thu Oct 18, 2018 11:28 pm

Star took particular note of the strange decorum change of the lower level, indeed the Chess Club was full of many surprises, both beautiful and terrifying.

She found all the security rather elaborate and wondered what else they held down in this dungeon to need such provisions.

She entered the room along with the Elders, and raised a eyebrow at seeing the ghouls naked.
After Lady V finished speaking she gave the vampiress a respectful nod of compliance and followed her father to sit next to him and wait to see what would happen next.

**Malakiel** Fri Oct 19, 2018 2:39 pm

Lady Victoria went to the first ghoul accompanied by Lord Valentine. Rebecca recognized the laughting man that defyed Adam last night. He refused to look Victoria in the eyes but just with a shy smiled her whole display changed, she seemed overwhelmingly attractive, even more beautiful than Lady Valery herself, more important than Lord Valentine who was ecclipsed by her. The ghoul inmediately turned to see her in Awe.

Victoria said.
"Don't turn your gaze from me. Look me in the eyes at all times."

As suddenly as it started, her Presence went back to normal just lingering the effect in the air.

Victoria continued.
"You're not allowed to lie, to exagerate, to change the subject. I forbit you to it

You'll answer truthfully to all my questions right away."

The ghoul seemed uneasy about it. Not worried just expectating and amused by the Harpy's commands.

Victoria moved side to side like a snake would, the ghoul followed her face hypnotized by her power. She slapped him in the face causing a violent reaction but she was at safe distance and he wasn't able to do anything to her but to follow her every movement.

She said.
"What clan is your Domitor's vitae?"

The ghoul started to laught but Victoria just repeated the question calmy and it seemed to hurt the ghoul, all of it: the unremoved barbwire, the laughter and the question. He was trying to break the restrains but did nothing except hurting himself. The question was repeated over and over, he contorted and twisted in his binding pillar unable to do anything. There were just too many things ordering him to comply and not even his Iron will could resist the Harpy's treacherous domination strategy.

Suddenly the laughter transformed into a scream, hurting his cheeks as he opened his mouth to say.
"MALKAVIAAAAAAAAANN!!!!"

He started to cry, sobbing inconsolable. The Harpy was still moving her face one side to the other, the bright in the ghoul's eye had dissapaired and he was know sincerely scared unable to resist the vamptress domination. He continued.
"He was blood bound, compelled and has an impressive Iron Will, Adam. You need to work around that before anything else."

Adam nods respectfully.

Victoria says to the ghoul.
"How long have you been a thrall?" *10 years*

"How long have you been your Domitor's ghoul?" *5 years*

"Where is your first domitor?" *He is destroyed*

"What Clan was he" *Malkavian*

"What clan is your new domitor?" *Also Malkavian*

"What's the relationship between your former and your most recent Domitor?" *My former domitor was my most recent's Sire."

"How was destroyed your former domitor?" the ghoul snapped forcing a frenzy that would never trigger due to the lack of vampiric blood in his system. Which was drained and substituted in the kitchen to be sent to the Chantry to match each ghoul with a Domitor in captivity.

"How was destroyed your former domitor?"

The ghoul screamed.
"MY MASTER DESTROYED HIM!!

YOU FUCKING BITCH!! MY MASTER WILL D...

Victoria shushed him with a gentle finger in front of his face. The ghoul went silent inmediately.
"You will speak to me within the norms of decorum."

The ghoul said.
"Lady of ....

You...

ARGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHH!!!

Yes my Lady."

Victoria continued.
"Tell me the whole story, how was your former Domitor destroyed?"

The ghoul still crying started to tell, very politely, how his former Sire embraced his childe. The Prince had given Joseph Workman permission to embrace an intern from the Toronto Asylum, from the criminal Lunatics from the Provincial Penitentiary, Luka Rocco Magnotta whom had been cured of his madness, former rapist and murderer of a chinese student he dismembered and sent by mail to several elementary schools in Canada. Now one of the most dedicated help in the service of his domitor.

Few years passed and Luka was indeed an example of good behavior that quickly changed after his Embrace, the Malkavian blood reactivated his paranoid schizophrenia to a new level of savagery, commiting diablery the first night that his Sire fed him right after his embrace. Then Luka took all his Sire's ghouls under his bound and the only few of us that are left went with him to the Sabbat ranks.

**Star** Fri Oct 19, 2018 4:59 pm

Star was quite surprised by Victoria's sudden shift in appeal, she diverted her eyes from The Vampiress as not to stair. When she raised her gaze again she noticed what ever allure that was there was gone. Star question this a bit, wondering what was taking place.

Star watched quietly as Victoria worked, she thought for sure that the Thralls would at least give a amusing display of resistance before being tortured to give up their masters information. She was almost sad seeming nothing of the sort taking place. Especially seeming that Star thought Lady V was a Master of Interrogation, which meant in the Sabbat you were a Master of Torture. Thus leading to encouraging some of Star's earlier fears about facing Lady V in a duel. But Lady V seemed to get the information she desired with only a few words.
This Star found very perplexing.

Perhaps this ghoul is not strong-willed as they originally seemed, Especially after having to endure the humiliation of being stripped down naked, and restrained in such a way that merely move would cause them harm. Fear can definitely be a good deterrent to correct the behavior, Star knew this all too well.

When the ghoul screamed out malkavian she chuckled to herself
<called it!>

Star paying attention to his story, though she didn't recognize any of the names that were being said. While Star was in the Sabbat she made a point to stay away from any Cainite suspected of being a Malkavian. They were far to illogical and unpredictable for her liking, pluse she thought being around them she might catch their "crazy", Especially how members of the Sabbat shared blood together, she wanted no part of that and looked upon the clan with the same prejudice that most do. This story only reaffirmed why she should keep her distance from the clan of lunatics.

The sudden shift in the ghouls attitude was also strange to Star. She figured it was only acting polite because it was terrified of its fate. Star sat and played close attention to the thralls emotions, she studied them as well as how this display effected the other thralls and she wonders if they would fold so easily.

Star didn't find the story too surprising. Diablery was common among Vampires she knew, especially the Sabbat. But to the Vamps of the Cam she interpreted that due to their Traditions, the Right of Destruction was saved for the Prince ONLY.
He could eat who ever he wanted. No one else under his rule was invited to the table, mostly 'cuz you can't have the subjects you rule over becoming stronger than you or they might rise up to take your kingdom. Especially if you don't control your subjects through the power of the blood. The Prince might be a Ventrue, but from her understanding "Dignatus" only applies from within the Clan, and being in the position of ruling the entire faction of the Camarilla of NewYork, you had to rule with a your subjects by being the strongest.
At least this was what Star thought under her flawed Sabbat mindset of how vamp Society worked.

As far as the Ghouls of a fallen Cainite were concerned, they were often treated as objects to be traded, reassessed, or used as amusement for Cainites. She was slightly surprised at the age of the Thrall, most Thralls she knew in the Sab never lasted that long. And wondered why a Kindred would defect, perhaps they had personal reasons why, like herself. Or perhaps (more likely) they were just Crazy due to being a Malkavian and couldn't keep their mouth shut to hide their actions. What ever the reason, it didn't matter to Star. She simply shrugged not taking in the true reasons behind the Kindred's choices.

Though she did have to hide a sadistic smirk when she heard the part if the story about dismembering someone and senting the parts by mail to several elementary schools in Canada. That was probably the most amusing thing she has heard all night, and had to hide her smirk behind her hand.
<Jesus f*uck Hee-Hee>

**Malakiel** Fri Oct 19, 2018 9:21 pm

Victoria supervised that Adam and Lawless were taking notes from the ghoul's interrogation. The next rutine questions were the tought ones, from his domitor's name, age, quirks, flaws, intentions... the ghoul was drained of his iron will and answered to everything barely resisting at all.

Then the Ventrue went to the second Ghoul this time a woman, not exactly gorgeous but pretty enough to make a living out of it. Victoria's authority and elegance couldn't be denied. Each word was just the essence of the right to rule over the entire human race, undeniably she was a Queen of legends.

Victoria spoke to the terrified woman in such imperative way as before, with the same rutine commands than before. Ordering the thrall to speak truthfully and straight to the point. The woman easily compelled.

When the Harpy asked the ghoul about her domitor's clan the woman started to scream. Her turned frantic, convulsioning strongly, smashing her head against the pillar behind her and when Adam and Lawless came to stop the thrall from hurting herself, the girl turned her head with such potence that her neck snapped instantly.

The Praetor got baffed by the situation looking at the ghoul. Lawless touched the ghoul looking for a pulse and he negated with his head meaning there was no hope.

**Star** Fri Oct 19, 2018 9:32 pm

Star was equally shocked and impressed by the ghoul's display of loyalty. To kill herself rather then give up any information to the Lady Interrogator was surely an impressive feat. Star held a strange bit of respect for this poor creature as its life drained away.
She wondered if others would follow suit.
Star was more interested in this "behavior" then actually the information being gathered, maybe it was her sadistic side, or maybe it was just the fact that she likes to study human emotions, but regardless she was quite impressed. And whoever trained this poor creature to be so loyal should be very proud of their work.

Star looked to Lady V to gauge her reaction, wondering if this "deadly loyal trend" was going to catch on to the rest.

**Malakiel** Fri Oct 19, 2018 9:42 pm

Victoria straighted her dress and looked at the hanging woman in front of her. Calmy she said to Adam.
"Bring her down."

Adam and Lawless started the complicated process of removing the chains to let her fall to the ground. Then with a hand sign she ordered the ghouls to take her outside of the other's sight. Valentine said.
"It was a compelled to kill herself."

Victoria baffed by the Elder's affirmation said.
"Dominate can't be used to make the victim hurt himself. Much less suicide."

Valentine only answer was.
"Not directly but it's possible." his tone was more an affirmation that a theoric possibility. That left Victoria thinking.

Brian next to Star said.
"What da fuck was that?"

**Star** Fri Oct 19, 2018 9:54 pm

Brian next to Star said.
"What da fuck was that?"

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" entertainment.. "
Star said whispering close to her father.
" ...I'm joking.... "
Was she though?
" actually I'm impressed... Clearly the poor creature has been well trained over time to provind the utmost loyalty to their Master. Its not out of the range of human behavior, no one should be surprised. You know During the Cold War the United States captured Soviet Spies who would commit suicide before interrogation by swallowing cyanide pills that they had hid on them rather than betray their country.... I'm assuming such brainwashing these creatures endured was something similar.
Kinda impressive actually.... Their master would be proud that their pets were so loyal. "
She said softly to her father, her voice was a bit apathetic and void of compassion for the dead human.

**Malakiel** Fri Oct 19, 2018 10:18 pm

Brian smiled and says.
"Conditioning a Sabbat ghoul to fight for a cause they know to be worth dying for is very likely but the human animal inside is quite different. No human can choose stop breathing to suicide, the human body is designed to prevent death, no one can just snapped his neck with a strong movement, even if you have the strength to do so your repitilian brain, your animal self would avoid using all your force subconsciously if you prefer.

This is just another level of conditioning. Entirely supernatural."

When the ghoul was removed from the pillar Victoria said loud enough for anyone to hear.
"There could be other traps inside these thralls. I can look for it before interrogating but it would take a significant amount of time. The alternative is to risk for them to bite off their own tongue or suicide in a creative way such as the last one."

Brian replied.
"Rebecca just reminded me of the Great War tactics to counter interrogation and some of them may have a false tooth with cyanide in it."

Victoria came back to the point saying.
"Is it acceptable Sir Hell Song to take a week or so to interrogate all the subjects?"

Valentine added to the conversation.
"Only with Auxpex we could sense their thoughts, even scan them without triggering unwanted actions. Per haps we could ask the Tremere for assistance or to the Toreador if they care to come upstate for a change."

Brian shrugs and says.
"All options are available. I think that the information these ghouls may have might be important however it is likely that the Tremere are already obtaining that information.

I'd prefer to bring this matter to the Primogen tomorrow or to, and to the Mistress of the Gate for them to take the decision. For now let's call the interrogation for the night."

Valentine agreed and the ghouls started to work with the vampires to bring the thralls down to their cages.

**Star** Sat Oct 20, 2018 2:48 am

Star pondered her father's words, he did have a point she thought, what ever caused this ghoul to end it's life in such a manner had to be supernatural. There definitely some unseen forces at work here that she could not point out.

The ghoul killing itself for loyalty was not the strange part of all this, it was the way in which it choose to kill itself. If indeed humans had this " self preservation instinct" that kicks in subconsciously right before death, how could she have bypassed it?
Perhaps there was some strange magic at work? She thought, though she truly didn't believe it. In Star's mind there had to be some kind of logical explanation.
As the topic of magic entered her mind, she wonders what the Clan of Warlocks found with their interrogation tactics. No doubt interrogating a bunch of Sabbat vampires would be more trickier than simply convincing a bunch of Thralls to Spill the Beans.

She was halfway glad that she was not assigned to be on the Gangrel team to interrogate the vampires, she honestly didn't know how she would feel about them. The Sabbat was now supposed to be considered the enemy, and most definitely they will try to kill her on site. She was not so much of a fool to believe otherwise. She was just afraid that she would see somebody she recognized, someone she fought beside, or worse someone she was recruited with. She had feed from many shovel heads like herself, and had a lingering concern in the back of her head that she might find one that she shared a blood tie with.

Perhaps Commander JezebelIa had foreseen such a thing and that was one of the reasons why she sent her father and herself to oversee the ghouls. Something her father did not seem to be taking any joy in, especially being at the Chess Club.
Maybe it also had to do with the Ventrue themselves, Adam did however ask for Star by her given name, and some of the Ventrue already seemed to have knowledge of her. There was also the topic of the Alliance between the Clan of Beasts and The Clan of Kings, and somewhere in the mix she might have a part in it.

This Star silently pondered on as she watched the ghouls being taken down and helped in the task as needed. When everything was all said and done she returned to her father's side to await what to do next.

**Malakiel** Sat Oct 20, 2018 8:53 am

Brian agreed to Rebecca's intention to help in the thrall relocation with Adam and Lawless. Another four ghouls left their weapons appart to help in the task by Victoria's command. Meanwhile, the three Elders sat up in line next to Brian.

Adam was the first to welcome Rebecca's help and Lawless her Knight in Shinning Armor against the Tremere smiled and nodded but said nothing. The operation was quite simple the vampire's would bring the chains down and wrap the ghoul with them. Then the ghoul's would take the prisoners to a cage in the dungeon jail, guarded with one of the vampires back and forth, rotating the one guarding the commitive. While one group was going to the jail the remaining would stay back to get down the next ghoul.

One by one the ghouls were taken back, not with few resistance, some tried to escape but the restrains were just too tight and difficult to break, even with potence. That made the transportation some how easy. Those ghouls resisting more than expected were put to sleep with an overcharged taser.

The most surprising of all was a female thrall, voluptuos woman with strong complexion and short dark brown hair and eyes. She was very calmed, unlike the other yelding ghouls she seem confident.

In a long process all the ghouls were encaged in a heavily reinforced part of the dungeon with several steel security doors and maze like corridors with a lot of armed personal.

The three vampires went back commenting some of the ghoul's strange attitude. Adam was the first to say.
"I'd simply ask the ghouls and taser them if they try to end their lives."

**Star** Sat Oct 20, 2018 1:06 pm

Star happily helped in securing and relocating the thralls, she viewed this as part of her duty to assist in any way possible. After all she was here because of the thralls and her duty to Commander Jezebella and the Gangrel Clan.

Star approached both Adam and Lawless, assisting them right away in the task at hand. Star greeted them both warmly and respectfully. She had not forgot the words Lawless had said to her to save her from the Tremere, him standing up for her ment so much, no one has done that before, especially being that they just met. She also recalled how she caught his eye when she met him again after she "cleaned up", though he said nothing she knew the look of a interested man.

She smiled brightly at Lawless, leting her eyes rest on his features. Star found his scar both intriguing and a bit sexy. He was the 1st Ventrue she had seen that truly looked like a warrior, even if he brandished a ridiculous size gun as a desert eagle when they 1st met. To Star the "men in black" look didn't seem to fit him, it probably something he was expected to wear. And she imagined him and what he would look like in street clothes, all the while trying not to give a playful chuckle. Star took note of his strong silent demeanor and she figured he was silent because from what she had seen of their interactions together he might lack the articulatness of what the Kings had become accustomed to in their speech. Still this made Star smile, and she hoped for an opportunity to chat with him away from judgmental ears.

She continued on helping with the ghouls, only throwing Mr. lawless a playful glance and a warm smile every now and then.

Star took note of the voluptuous woman, and her calm disposition. She didn't seem like she belonged with the Sword, perhaps far to pretty, and didn't seem to hold that "whiped-dog" or "fear of the disobedience" that most of the human pets do.
Perhaps it was all a ruse and she was secretly plotting something.

Star walked with Adam and Lawless.

Adam was the first to say.
"I'd simply ask the ghouls and taser them if they try to end their lives."

Star chuckled at this..
▂▂▂▂▂▂STAR▂▂▂▂▂▂
"Hee-Hee yeah indeed, To be honest I do more than taser them to be honest. Hee-Hee Sabbat Thralls have been trained to resist pain to a extent to a certain extent, you might find a simple electric jolt not to be so effective Mr. Brick. "
She said with a bit of a laugh.

Star paused in thought for a monent
▂▂▂▂▂▂STAR▂▂▂▂▂▂
" Did you guys notice the calm state of that one sexy brunette. She seems out of place compared to the rest. Red-flags are going up in my mind, I think she needs further inspection before we leave her be for the night. She could be plotting something. but she isn't quite acting like the rest...

Actually... I see a lot of corollaries between her and the 1st ghoul that died and the other. The woman and man from the other night... The one you originally did that little bobwire trick too, impressive by the way.

Though correct me if I'm wrong, that Thrall... the sexy brunette, she wasn't so calm before. And now after witnessing the death of another she becomes calm, cool and collective? Naw i'm calling bullSh!t. Something isn't adding up here, she should be at least in a panic state to some degree. Its Hunan nature....

I think Something we are not seeing is a foot, its not brainwashing In my opinion ... Its something Supernatural. She needs to be scrutinized, and if she indeed somehow kills herself, the other ghouls should be check for similar Behavior and patterns. "
Star said a bit informally, not so much giving the two Ventrue a order but just a suggestion.
▂▂▂▂▂▂STAR▂▂▂▂▂▂
" I don't know.. I could be wrong"

Star turns to Mr.Lawless with a smile, her eyes resting on his facial features and asks..
▂▂▂▂▂▂STAR▂▂▂▂▂▂
" What are your thoughts Mr. Lawless? "
Her voice had a calm and pleasant tone to them, she seemed generally curious about his opinion to the conversion.

**Star** Sat Oct 20, 2018 1:23 pm

Perception + Empathy (dif7)
Star carried out 4 launched of one (Roll.) :

1 , 7 , 6 , 9

**Malakiel** Sat Oct 20, 2018 1:35 pm

Both kindred listened to Rebecca's explaination on human nature very interested. Especially regarding the sexy brunette whom oddly sat in her cell without bothering at the minimum and Brick even commented he saw the thrall to smile a little in the process. Which he suppoused was evidence of her being absent minded from the actual reality around them.

its not brainwashing In my opinion ... Its something Supernatural.

Brick said. "Yes, these ghouls have been heavily Dominated."

What are your thoughts Mr. Lawless?

Lawless turned to answer and at the same time Becca noticed a hinch of antipathy from Adam. Her female intuition detected that Mr. Brick was trying to hide his discomfort to her 'special' attention to Mr. Lawless.

Lawless answer unaware of this dynamic.
"What you're saying makes perfect sense to me Miss Garrison. We should share that information with Lady Victoria von Baden. I'm sure she'll be receptive."

**Star** Sat Oct 20, 2018 2:03 pm

Star gave a slight smirk at noticing Adam's deep-seated feeling of dislike that she was near flirting with Lawless with her eyes and mannerisms. She thought it must "burn" the very proper Ventrue that she would find this out-of-place man so much more alluring than himself. After All, Adam was what one would expect from the finest the Clan of Kings could offer, at least in his mind.

Brick said. "Yes, these ghouls have been heavily Dominated."

Star turned to Adam looking perplexed.
▂▂▂▂▂▂STAR▂▂▂▂▂▂
" Dominated? That's a funny word to describe it. I would say more of a trained brainwashing, or influenced, to be honesty. Perhaps by some kind of supernatural hypnosis. "
Star said, clearly never hearing of the discipline of Dominate before.
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" You know in World War two Hitler was said to seek out a supernatural means to control his armies, not just through propaganda, loyalty or fear. But harnessing the power of the occult. Whether this actually came to fruition still is in speculation though. "
She said with s shrug.

Lawless answer unaware of this dynamic.
"What you're saying makes perfect sense to me Miss Garrison. We should share that information with Lady Victoria von Baden. I'm sure she'll be receptive."

Star smiled warmly again at him.
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" indeed, though it might just be nothing, but it could be something. I have found that even the smallest detail could lead to something bigger. I shall bring my thoughts on this matter to Lady Victoria, if you concent."
She said politely.

Star turned to Adam to gage his thoughts on the matter.

**Malakiel** Sat Oct 20, 2018 2:19 pm

Dominated? That's a funny word to describe it. I would say more of a trained brainwashing, or influenced, to be honesty. Perhaps by some kind of supernatural hypnosis.

Adam gave Rebecca an odd look and said.
"I mean Dominate, the discipline. Our blood power to govern over other minds, our right by blood to rule"

indeed, though it might just be nothing, but it could be something. I have found that even the smallest detail could lead to something bigger. I shall bring my thoughts on this matter to Lady Victoria, if you concent.

Lawless nods.

**Star** Sat Oct 20, 2018 2:57 pm

Adam gave Rebecca an odd look and said.
"I mean Dominate, the discipline. Our blood power to govern over other minds, our right by blood to rule"

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" ....... Dominate is a discipline then? "
Star's head tilted to the side in question, this clearly was new information to her. Though from Adam's perspective a Ventrue being raised by Gangrels its not too surprising that she didn't know.

While in the Sabbat she had heard tales of powerful vampires having the abilities to manipulate the minds of others. To rip their memories away, to make them forget and force them to do unspeakable things. This was something she had always feard, especially when she valued her memories of her father so much. She had thought that the Camarilla had try to use these tactics against her when she was originally captured and held in the variegation room. Now to think that she was among those that held such power sent a chill up her spine.
<oh f*ck!>

Star took a pause and practiced what the Count taught her about fear earlier and did not let it affect her.
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" so this... Dominant discipline... This is a Ventrue thing? Like all Ventrue can use it.. I mean... "
Star paused she wasn't quite speaking properly so she corrected her speech.
▂▂▂▂▂▂STAR▂▂▂▂▂▂
" Forgive my ignorance on the matter Mr. Brick. I am not familiar with such a discipline. Is it inherent to the entire Clan? Is such a power practiced frequently. "
Star said in a much more proper and formal fashion
And looked to both Ventrues for confirmation

**Malakiel** Sat Oct 20, 2018 4:06 pm

Adam peacock demeanor was satisfied to be again the center of attention and elaborately explained Rebecca about it.
"Dominate is the proper name of the discipline. It is in the Clan Ventrue's blood whether one particular kindred develops it or not. Also Presence and Fortitude, our other two disciplines.

We Ventrue are the only clan in the Camarilla to have such discipline. Arguibly the Tremere are not a vampiric clan at all, they stole the gift of the blood a thousand years ago and even if they have Dominate it's an stolen right not given by the Lord.

...and finally the La Sombra clan they also have a devious command over other's souls. We can set the sheeps in the right path but they have the dark gift to lead them to their own doom."

He was very proud of being a Ventrue and each word was accentuated by this.
"We're Kings and Queens by right Miss Garrison. Our blood give us the right to rule over all kinds."

**Star** Sat Oct 20, 2018 4:41 pm

Star played close attention to what Adam was saying. She found the pride in his voice compelling.
She was fascinated to hear about the King's signature discipline. She felt a little in awe for learning this about herself and the clan she now belonged to. There was still so much she didn't know.

Dominate is the proper name of the discipline // in the Clan Ventrue| //. Also Presence and Fortitude, our other two disciplines.

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" I very familiar with the discipline of Fortitude, but Presence I have not heard before.
Indeed there is much about the Clan of Kings I do not know. This experience has been quite an eye-opener. There is much it seems I do not know.

May I ask what is the discipline of Presence Mr.Brick.?

Do both of you practice these clan disciplines?
She said looking to both of the Ventrue.
"I'm wondering which disciplines you favor. If Dominate truly gives a King the ability to command others, I would have to assume that you Mr. Brick are very proficient at it. You seem to hold a air of command about you. Its fitting for what I would think of as a Lord of Lords.
She said giving Adam a compliment.

"Mr. lawless, being the silent type... perhaps only do to these presents surroundings Hee-Hee .I'm going to assume that Mr Lawless is probably proficient with Fortitude. He looks very strong, powerful and "resilient", like he could certainly take a beating and come back for more Hee-Hee

She said in mildly flirtatious Way, exaggerating the word "resilient" and licking her lips slightly while giving Mr. lawless a seductive look to the ire of Mr Brick.

**Malakiel** Sat Oct 20, 2018 5:24 pm

Adam was lost in translation but judging by Lawless smirk he was very aware of the innuendo. Adam oblivious of the hidden meaning, even subconcious meaning in Rebecca's words he literally answer her questions.
"You're right Miss Garrison. As far as I know Mr Lawless and I are equally develop in our Presence discipline but where I excel at Dominate he has prowess in Fortitude.

You have quite an eye."

Once they arrived to the amphiteather where the Elders awaited Mr. Brick kept walking down to its center while Mr. Lawless took a moment to grab Rebecca's hand, holding her back with some rudeness in his attitude rather than actual force. He quickly got very close her ear to say away from unwanted occasion.
"I enjoy very much your Presence as well my Lady. I look forward to be its most intimate acquaintance."

**Star** Sat Oct 20, 2018 5:54 pm

Star had to hide a smirk from Adam's direct answer, her sexual playfulness completely going over his head.
She smiled at Adam and took is compliment with grace.

While letting Mr. Brick walk ahead and Lawless pulling her aside, she smiled.

"I enjoy very much your Presence as well my Lady. I look forward to be its most intimate acquaintance."

Star leaned in close to the man, whispering softly in his ear and sliding her other hand he wasnt holding gently down the man's side.
▂▂▂STAR(whispering)▂▂
"Indeed Mr Lawless, I would definitely enjoy that, perhaps in a more "relaxed, and "non-formal" environment we could get to know each other a bit better.... And you can tell he how you acquired those sexy scars hee-hee and show me what other ones you might have."
She said in a soft sensual way as her lower hand slid to his ass and gave a slight playful squeeze just out of sight from any would be on lookers.

Star playful smirked as she looked around no make sure no one took note of her being flirtatious before continuing on her way giving Mr. Lawless a little sexy hip sway as she walked.

**Malakiel** Sat Oct 20, 2018 7:00 pm

Lawless smiled at Rebecca and walked away joining Mr. Brick to finally meet the Elders.

Adam was the first to bow and said.
"Our job its done my Lord, my Lady. Sir Hell Song your Childe is being quite helpful, thank you for letting her group with us."

Lawless came second and then was Rebecca to join the ventrue.

Lord Valentine and Brian standed up while Victoria was already on her feet. Then the Chess Master said.
"Very well my fellow Kindreds, let's go back upstairs. The interrogation shall continue another night."

Adam nods and starts to walk with them, forgetful also of what Rebecca was suppoused to say, while Lawless shy demeanor overruled any intention of giving her lobby to express her alert to the Elders.

**Star** Sat Oct 20, 2018 7:15 pm

Star simply chuckled to herself with a slight eye roll to being ignored. She figured it was simply due to the fact she was a inexperienced fledgling and that the true Ventures were probably only humoring her to be polite. Perhaps she will bring her thoughts to her father, then if he found then to hold some sort of validity he could bring them to the elders, it wasn't her place to interrupt the elders with wild accusations and speculations.

Star simply waited for a moment her father wasnt being adressed and touched her father's shoulder as she spoke softly.
▂▂▂STAR(whispering)▂▂▂
" Sire, when you have a moment I would like to speak with you privately about some speculations and concerns I have of the PoWs."

She said softly. Then stepping back in line, trying not to draw any other attention to herself other than a small playful eyeglass every now and then too Lawless as they walked.

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